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	== Analysis ==		== Analysis ==
			=== Canzon ===
	[[Klaus Beckmann]] noted that the location of the ''Canzon'' in [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]], a manuscript which primarily transmitted harpsichord suites, suggests that the piece may have been written for the harpsichord or other string keyboard instrument.<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009), 276.</ref>		[[Klaus Beckmann]] noted that the location of the ''Canzon'' in [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]], a manuscript which primarily transmitted harpsichord suites, suggests that the piece may have been written for the harpsichord or other string keyboard instrument.<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009), 276.</ref>

	~~=== Canzon ===~~
	It has been found that the theme of the ''Canzon'' is similar to a ''Canzon'' by [[Francesco Della Porta]] found on f.52v-54r of Ms. Foa 1 (vol. 10) from the [[Turin Tablatures]]. This piece is theorized to be from a printed collection of Canzonas by Porta that is now lost. The copy in this manuscript can be dated to ca. 1639. However, it is not confirmed that Franz Tunder copied the theme from this piece or knew about it, so this can not lead to any conclusions about the date of Tunder's ''Canzon''.<ref>[[Michel Belotti\|Belotti, M.]] (editor). ''Franz Tunder: Sämtliche Orgelwerke.'' Edition Breitkopf 8825, 2012. 10, 13.</ref>		It has been found that the theme of the ''Canzon'' is similar to a ''Canzon'' by [[Francesco Della Porta]] found on f.52v-54r of Ms. Foa 1 (vol. 10) from the [[Turin Tablatures]]. This piece is theorized to be from a printed collection of Canzonas by Porta that is now lost. The copy in this manuscript can be dated to ca. 1639. However, it is not confirmed that Franz Tunder copied the theme from this piece or knew about it, so this can not lead to any conclusions about the date of Tunder's ''Canzon''.<ref>[[Michel Belotti\|Belotti, M.]] (editor). ''Franz Tunder: Sämtliche Orgelwerke.'' Edition Breitkopf 8825, 2012. 10, 13.</ref>

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	=== Canzon ===		=== Canzon ===
	It has been found that the theme of the ''Canzon'' is similar to a ''~~Canzona Quarta~~'' by [[Francesco Della Porta]] found in Ms. Foa 1 from the [[Turin Tablatures]]. This piece is theorized to be from a printed collection of Canzonas by Porta that is now lost. The copy in this manuscript can be dated to ca. 1639. However, it is not confirmed that Franz Tunder copied the theme from this piece or knew about it, so this can not lead to any conclusions about the date of Tunder's ''Canzon''.<ref>[[Michel Belotti\|Belotti, M.]] (editor). ''Franz Tunder: Sämtliche Orgelwerke.'' Edition Breitkopf 8825, 2012. 10, 13.</ref>		It has been found that the theme of the ''Canzon'' is similar to a ''Canzon'' by [[Francesco Della Porta]] found on f.52v-54r of Ms. Foa 1 (vol. 10) from the [[Turin Tablatures]]. This piece is theorized to be from a printed collection of Canzonas by Porta that is now lost. The copy in this manuscript can be dated to ca. 1639. However, it is not confirmed that Franz Tunder copied the theme from this piece or knew about it, so this can not lead to any conclusions about the date of Tunder's ''Canzon''.<ref>[[Michel Belotti\|Belotti, M.]] (editor). ''Franz Tunder: Sämtliche Orgelwerke.'' Edition Breitkopf 8825, 2012. 10, 13.</ref>

			'''''Canzon Quarta'' by [[Francesco Della Porta]]:'''

			<score><< \relative g'' { s1 \| r2 g8 g g a f8. e16 d8 e16 f g8 e f d } \\ \relative d'' { \time 2/2 d8 d d e c8. b16 a8 b16 c d8 b c a g c b e d4 r8 c b c a b } >></score>

	== Editions ==		== Editions ==

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	[[Klaus Beckmann]] noted that the location of the ''Canzon'' in [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]], a manuscript which primarily transmitted harpsichord suites, suggests that the piece may have been written for the harpsichord or other string keyboard instrument.<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009), 276.</ref>		[[Klaus Beckmann]] noted that the location of the ''Canzon'' in [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]], a manuscript which primarily transmitted harpsichord suites, suggests that the piece may have been written for the harpsichord or other string keyboard instrument.<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009), 276.</ref>

	It has been found that the theme of the ''Canzon'' is similar to a Canzona by [[Francesco Della Porta]]. ~~Combined with~~ the ~~appearance~~ of ~~a solo motet~~ ''~~Salve Regina~~'' by [[~~Giovanni Rovetta~~]] (~~published in ''Motet concertati'' in 1647~~) ~~re-written as a Cantata~~ ''~~Salve me Jesu~~'' ~~under Tunder's name~~, ~~this shows how much of an influence early Italian music was to Tunder~~.~~<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009)~~, ~~276~~.</ref>		=== Canzon ===
			It has been found that the theme of the ''Canzon'' is similar to a ''Canzona Quarta'' by [[Francesco Della Porta]] found in Ms. Foa 1 from the [[Turin Tablatures]]. This piece is theorized to be from a printed collection of Canzonas by Porta that is now lost. The copy in this manuscript can be dated to ca. 1639. However, it is not confirmed that Franz Tunder copied the theme from this piece or knew about it, so this can not lead to any conclusions about the date of Tunder's ''Canzon''.<ref>[[Michel Belotti\|Belotti, M.]] (editor). ''Franz Tunder: Sämtliche Orgelwerke.'' Edition Breitkopf 8825, 2012. 10, 13.</ref>

	== Editions ==		== Editions ==

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	'''Franz Tunder''' (1614-1667) was a German organist, composer, and ''Werckmeister''. He was part of a prestigious line of organists (and one of the longest serving organists) working at the [[Marienkirche, Lübeck]], and was an important composer in the [[North German Organ School]].		'''Franz Tunder''' (1614-1667) was a German organist, composer, and ''Werckmeister''. He was part of a prestigious line of organists (and one of the longest serving organists) working at the [[Marienkirche, Lübeck]], and was an important composer in the [[North German Organ School]].

			[[Klaus Beckmann]] stated that, together with [[Heinrich Scheidemann]], Franz Tunder formed the ''avant-garde'' of organ music in the Lutheran northern German-speaking lands.

	== Life ==		== Life ==

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	Franz Tunder passed away at 9:30 PM on November 5, 1667.		Franz Tunder passed away at 9:30 PM on November 5, 1667.

	== ~~Analysis~~ ==		== Works ==
	The organ chorale works of Franz Tunder can be divided into four categories<ref>{{NdS2 2009}} 277</ref>:		The organ chorale works of Franz Tunder can be divided into four categories<ref>{{NdS2 2009}} 277</ref>:
	* ''Verse cycles'' with separate verses - Jesus Christus, unser Heiland		* ''Verse cycles'' with separate verses - Jesus Christus, unser Heiland
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	* ''Choral Fantasie'' (the rest of the surviving compositions)		* ''Choral Fantasie'' (the rest of the surviving compositions)

	~~== Works ==~~
	[[File:S-Uu Ms Ihre 285 Tunder.jpg\|thumb\|right\|The Canzona by Franz Tunder, found in S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]]Except for one work, all remaining pieces by Franz Tunder are unicas. The sources of Tunder's organ music are in three main categories:		[[File:S-Uu Ms Ihre 285 Tunder.jpg\|thumb\|right\|The Canzona by Franz Tunder, found in S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]]Except for one work, all remaining pieces by Franz Tunder are unicas. The sources of Tunder's organ music are in three main categories:

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	\| [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]] P50-52 \|\| [20] Cantzon / F: Töndern \|\| On a theme by [[Francesco Della Porta]]? \|\| <score>\relative d'' { \key g \major d8 d d e c8. b16 a8 b16 c d8 d, g a }</score>		\| [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]] P50-52 \|\| [20] Cantzon / F: Töndern \|\| On a theme by [[Francesco Della Porta]]? \|\| <score>\relative d'' { \key g \major d8 d d e c8. b16 a8 b16 c d8 d, g a }</score>
	\|}		\|}

	[[Klaus Beckmann]] noted that the location of the ''Canzon'' in [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]], a manuscript which primarily transmitted harpsichord suites, suggests that the piece may have been written for the harpsichord or other string keyboard instrument.<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009), 276.</ref>

	It has been found that the theme of the ''Canzon'' is similar to that of the motet ''Salve mi Jesu'' by [[Francesco Della Porta]] found in ''Motetti concertati'' (Venezia, 1647, published by [[Giovanni Rovetta]]).<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009), 276.</ref>

	=== Other theorized works ===		=== Other theorized works ===
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	The first praeludium in [[D-Lr Mus.ant.pract. K.N. 207/16]], which is anonymous, has been described as being reminiscent of Tunder<ref>[[Organum IV]] vol.10</ref>.		The first praeludium in [[D-Lr Mus.ant.pract. K.N. 207/16]], which is anonymous, has been described as being reminiscent of Tunder<ref>[[Organum IV]] vol.10</ref>.

	=== Editions ===		== Analysis ==
			[[Klaus Beckmann]] noted that the location of the ''Canzon'' in [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]], a manuscript which primarily transmitted harpsichord suites, suggests that the piece may have been written for the harpsichord or other string keyboard instrument.<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009), 276.</ref>

			It has been found that the theme of the ''Canzon'' is similar to a Canzona by [[Francesco Della Porta]]. Combined with the appearance of a solo motet ''Salve Regina'' by [[Giovanni Rovetta]] (published in ''Motet concertati'' in 1647) re-written as a Cantata ''Salve me Jesu'' under Tunder's name, this shows how much of an influence early Italian music was to Tunder.<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009), 276.</ref>

			== Editions ==
	An incomplete list of editions of the organ works of Tunder is included below.		An incomplete list of editions of the organ works of Tunder is included below.

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	\| [[D-Lr Mus.ant.pract. K.N. 207/15]] P909-910 \|\| [55] Praeludium / F. Tund: \|\| G-Minor \|\| <score><< \relative a'' { \key g \minor r16 a g e fis g e fis d c bes c a bes g a fis } \\ \relative a' { s2 r16 a g e fis g e fis d } >></score>		\| [[D-Lr Mus.ant.pract. K.N. 207/15]] P909-910 \|\| [55] Praeludium / F. Tund: \|\| G-Minor \|\| <score><< \relative a'' { \key g \minor r16 a g e fis g e fis d c bes c a bes g a fis } \\ \relative a' { s2 r16 a g e fis g e fis d } >></score>
	\|-		\|-
	\| [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]] P50-52 \|\| [20] Cantzon / F: Töndern \|\| On a theme by [[Francesco Della Porta]] \|\| <score>\relative d'' { \key g \major d8 d d e c8. b16 a8 b16 c d8 d, g a }</score>		\| [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]] P50-52 \|\| [20] Cantzon / F: Töndern \|\| On a theme by [[Francesco Della Porta]]? \|\| <score>\relative d'' { \key g \major d8 d d e c8. b16 a8 b16 c d8 d, g a }</score>
	\|}		\|}

			[[Klaus Beckmann]] noted that the location of the ''Canzon'' in [[S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]], a manuscript which primarily transmitted harpsichord suites, suggests that the piece may have been written for the harpsichord or other string keyboard instrument.<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009), 276.</ref>

			It has been found that the theme of the ''Canzon'' is similar to that of the motet ''Salve mi Jesu'' by [[Francesco Della Porta]] found in ''Motetti concertati'' (Venezia, 1647, published by [[Giovanni Rovetta]]).<ref name="beckmann276">Beckmann (2009), 276.</ref>

	=== Other theorized works ===		=== Other theorized works ===

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 == References ==
 [[Claudia Schumacher|Schumacher, Claudia]] (editor). ''Franz Tunder: Sämtliche Orgelwerke''. Mainz: Schott, 2019.

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Works

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	[[File:S-Uu Ms Ihre 285 Tunder.jpg\|thumb\|right\|The Canzona by Franz Tunder, found in S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]]Except for one work, all remaining pieces by Franz Tunder are unicas. The sources of Tunder's organ music are in three main categories:		[[File:S-Uu Ms Ihre 285 Tunder.jpg\|thumb\|right\|The Canzona by Franz Tunder, found in S-Uu Ms. Ihre 285]]Except for one work, all remaining pieces by Franz Tunder are unicas. The sources of Tunder's organ music are in three main categories:

	~~a collection of manuscripts in the ''Rätsbucherei'', Lüneburg.~~		* [[:Category:Lüneburg Tablatures\|The Lüneburg Tablatures]], including [[D-Lr Mus.ant.pract. K.N. 209]].

	* [[:Category:Lüneburg Tablatures\|The Lüneburg Tablatures]], including Mus.ant.pract. K.N. 209.
	*[[Pelplin Tablatures\|The Pelplin Tablatures]], a collection of manuscripts from the Pelplin Monestary.		*[[Pelplin Tablatures\|The Pelplin Tablatures]], a collection of manuscripts from the Pelplin Monestary.
	*The Canzona by Tunder is located in a manuscript currently housed in the Universitetsbibliotek, Uppsala.		*The Canzona by Tunder is located in a manuscript currently housed in the Universitetsbibliotek, Uppsala.

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	The first praeludium in [[D-Lr Mus.ant.pract. K.N. 207/16]], which is anonymous, has been described as being reminiscent of Tunder<ref>[[Organum IV]] vol.10</ref>.		The first praeludium in [[D-Lr Mus.ant.pract. K.N. 207/16]], which is anonymous, has been described as being reminiscent of Tunder<ref>[[Organum IV]] vol.10</ref>.

			=== Editions ===
			An incomplete list of editions of the organ works of Tunder is included below.

			* [[Max Seiffert]], Leipzig: Kistner & Siegel, n.d. ([[Organum IV]] vol. 6).<br>(Preludia only)
			* [[Rudolf Walter]]. ''Sämtliche Choralbearbeitungen für Orgel / Franz Tunder.'' Mainz: Schott, 1958.
			* [[Klaus Beckmann]], Wiesbaden: Breitkopf & Hartel.
			* [[Jan van Biezen]]. ''Christ lag in Todesbanden : für Orgel / Franz Tunder.'' Amsterdam : Annie Bank, 1982. (Stichting Centrum voor de Kerkzang 129)
			* [[Michel Belotti]], Wiesbaden: Breitkopf & Hartel.
			* [[Claudia Schumacher]], Mainz: Schott. 2022 (revised edition) ([[Meister der Norddeutschen Orgelschule\|MdNO]] 17)

	== References ==		== References ==

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	=== Other theorized works ===		=== Other theorized works ===
	Two chorale fantasias from the [[Pelplin Tablatures]] are theorized to be by Franz Tunder by [[Klaus Beckmann]], despite the composer "H.M.T." being written<ref>[[Klaus Beckmann\|Beckmann, Klaus]] (editor), ''Zwei Choralfantasien: Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ ; Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott.'' Wiesbaden: Breitkopf & Härtel, 1991.</ref>. He also theorized that the anonymous ''Magnificat octavi toni'' (also a chorale fantasia) from the [[Zellerfeld Tablatures]] no.1 is by Tunder{{Citation needed}}.		Two chorale fantasias from the [[Pelplin Tablatures]] are theorized to be by Franz Tunder by [[Klaus Beckmann]], despite the composer "H.S.M." being written<ref>[[Klaus Beckmann\|Beckmann, Klaus]] (editor), ''Zwei Choralfantasien: Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ ; Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott.'' Wiesbaden: Breitkopf & Härtel, 1991.</ref>. He also theorized that the anonymous ''Magnificat octavi toni'' (also a chorale fantasia) from the [[Zellerfeld Tablatures]] no.1 is by Tunder{{Citation needed}}.

	The first praeludium in [[D-Lr Mus.ant.pract. K.N. 207/16]], which is anonymous, has been described as being reminiscent of Tunder<ref>[[Organum IV]] vol.10</ref>.		The first praeludium in [[D-Lr Mus.ant.pract. K.N. 207/16]], which is anonymous, has been described as being reminiscent of Tunder<ref>[[Organum IV]] vol.10</ref>.